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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17922</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Mother, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. What you are going through is a nightmare.

But, please try and see that because people may disagree with your opinion, that doesn't mean we are being cruel or bitter. Its a fact for example that breast milk contains Aluminium. Between 50 days to a years breast feeding would give a baby the same amount of Aluminium as it would receive from the whole of the paediatric vaccine schedule.

Once again, my sincere condolences on your terrible loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Mother, I am so sorry to hear of your loss. What you are going through is a nightmare.</p>
<p>But, please try and see that because people may disagree with your opinion, that doesn&#8217;t mean we are being cruel or bitter. Its a fact for example that breast milk contains Aluminium. Between 50 days to a years breast feeding would give a baby the same amount of Aluminium as it would receive from the whole of the paediatric vaccine schedule.</p>
<p>Once again, my sincere condolences on your terrible loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Do'C</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17915</link>
		<dc:creator>Do'C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&#38;_udi=B6TD4-4KJTM8X-2&#38;_user=10&#38;_rdoc=1&#38;_fmt=&#38;_orig=search&#38;_sort=d&#38;view=c&#38;_version=1&#38;_urlVersion=0&#38;_userid=10&#38;md5=f0b734708b9190a418e0e8a2d6f86d44" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Link&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;BACKGROUND: Although previous studies have shown either no association between immunisation and SIDS or even a decreased risk of SIDS, adverse effects, including death, from immunisations continue to cause concern, especially when a new vaccine is introduced. METHODS: A large case control study with immunisation data on 307 SIDS cases and 971 controls. RESULTS: SIDS cases were immunised less frequently and later than controls. Furthermore there was no increased risk of SIDS in the 14 days following immunisation. There was no evidence to suggest the recently introduced hexavalent vaccines were associated with an increased risk of SIDS. CONCLUSIONS: This study provides further support that immunisations may reduce the risk of SIDS.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&#38;_udi=B6TD4-4N8K597-3&#38;_user=10&#38;_rdoc=1&#38;_fmt=&#38;_orig=search&#38;_sort=d&#38;view=c&#38;_acct=C000050221&#38;_version=1&#38;_urlVersion=0&#38;_userid=10&#38;md5=62b463b55c681d8637471c14c3fa1f48" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Link&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;BACKGROUND: There are claims that immunisations cause sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), but some studies have found either no association or that they are associated with a reduced risk of SIDS. AIMS: To conduct a meta-analysis examining the relationship between immunisation and SIDS. METHODS: Nine case-controls studies were identified examining this association, of which four adjusted for potential confounders. RESULTS: The summary odds ratio (OR) in the univariate analysis suggested that immunisations were protective, but the presence of heterogeneity makes it difficult to combine these studies. The summary OR for the studies reporting multivariate ORs was 0.54 (95% CI=0.39-0.76) with no evidence of heterogeneity. CONCLUSIONS: Immunisations are associated with a halving of the risk of SIDS. There are biological reasons why this association may be causal, but other factors, such as the healthy vaccinee effect, may be important. Immunisations should be part of the SIDS prevention campaigns.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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<blockquote><p>BACKGROUND: Although previous studies have shown either no association between immunisation and SIDS or even a decreased risk of SIDS, adverse effects, including death, from immunisations continue to cause concern, especially when a new vaccine is introduced. METHODS: A large case control study with immunisation data on 307 SIDS cases and 971 controls. RESULTS: SIDS cases were immunised less frequently and later than controls. Furthermore there was no increased risk of SIDS in the 14 days following immunisation. There was no evidence to suggest the recently introduced hexavalent vaccines were associated with an increased risk of SIDS. CONCLUSIONS: This study provides further support that immunisations may reduce the risk of SIDS.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6TD4-4N8K597-3&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=62b463b55c681d8637471c14c3fa1f48" rel="nofollow"><strong>Link</strong></a></p>
<blockquote><p>BACKGROUND: There are claims that immunisations cause sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), but some studies have found either no association or that they are associated with a reduced risk of SIDS. AIMS: To conduct a meta-analysis examining the relationship between immunisation and SIDS. METHODS: Nine case-controls studies were identified examining this association, of which four adjusted for potential confounders. RESULTS: The summary odds ratio (OR) in the univariate analysis suggested that immunisations were protective, but the presence of heterogeneity makes it difficult to combine these studies. The summary OR for the studies reporting multivariate ORs was 0.54 (95% CI=0.39-0.76) with no evidence of heterogeneity. CONCLUSIONS: Immunisations are associated with a halving of the risk of SIDS. There are biological reasons why this association may be causal, but other factors, such as the healthy vaccinee effect, may be important. Immunisations should be part of the SIDS prevention campaigns.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17894</link>
		<dc:creator>HCN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Mother said "Aluminium and formaldeyhde in any capacity are unacceptable."

Then you shall not use pickles with alum, anything in aluminum cans nor any fruit.  Fruit has naturally occuring formaldehyde.

Also, some baking powders contain aluminum salts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Mother said &#8220;Aluminium and formaldeyhde in any capacity are unacceptable.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you shall not use pickles with alum, anything in aluminum cans nor any fruit.  Fruit has naturally occuring formaldehyde.</p>
<p>Also, some baking powders contain aluminum salts.</p>
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		<title>By: HCN</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17893</link>
		<dc:creator>HCN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We understand you are angry, and we know that reason is not something you are willig to accept in your grief.

Please, yes... we are sympathetic... but we are also sympathetic to the parents of these children who got pertussis:

Year____Cases___Deaths
2004____25827__ 27
2005____25616__ 39
2006____15632__ 16

The death figures for 2004 through 2006 are from this slide set:
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/Slides/Pertussis10.ppt#9 ... Slide 9. Of the 82 deaths from pertussis during 2004 through 2006, 69 were of infants under the age of three months, while the remaining 13 were older than three months.

Please understand that everything caries a risk.  There is a recognized risk with vaccines, but there is even a greater risk with pertussis and haemophilus influenzae (and yes, I've met someone whose first child died from the meningitis caused by actual disease tha the Hib vaccine is for).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We understand you are angry, and we know that reason is not something you are willig to accept in your grief.</p>
<p>Please, yes&#8230; we are sympathetic&#8230; but we are also sympathetic to the parents of these children who got pertussis:</p>
<p>Year____Cases___Deaths<br />
2004____25827__ 27<br />
2005____25616__ 39<br />
2006____15632__ 16</p>
<p>The death figures for 2004 through 2006 are from this slide set:<br />
<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/Slides/Pertussis10.ppt#9" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/Slides/Pertussis10.ppt#9</a> &#8230; Slide 9. Of the 82 deaths from pertussis during 2004 through 2006, 69 were of infants under the age of three months, while the remaining 13 were older than three months.</p>
<p>Please understand that everything caries a risk.  There is a recognized risk with vaccines, but there is even a greater risk with pertussis and haemophilus influenzae (and yes, I&#8217;ve met someone whose first child died from the meningitis caused by actual disease tha the Hib vaccine is for).</p>
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		<title>By: ANGRY MOTHER FROM NJ</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17892</link>
		<dc:creator>ANGRY MOTHER FROM NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, show me the scientific proof with regards to your statements Mr. Stanton.  It would be a great relief for me to see the hardcore evidence that shows the decline in SIDS with regards to babies who died shortly before being vaccinated and were told SIDS was the cause of death.  I don't doubt that our government uses SIDS as a catch-all for all babies who supposedly die of SIDS between the ages of 2-4 months (the highest instances of SIDS deaths occur at this time) let's get the numbers of actual babies who were vaccinated shortly before a SIDS death...Please provide some real scientific data here.  That would be so very helpful in my continued effort at channeling my grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, show me the scientific proof with regards to your statements Mr. Stanton.  It would be a great relief for me to see the hardcore evidence that shows the decline in SIDS with regards to babies who died shortly before being vaccinated and were told SIDS was the cause of death.  I don&#8217;t doubt that our government uses SIDS as a catch-all for all babies who supposedly die of SIDS between the ages of 2-4 months (the highest instances of SIDS deaths occur at this time) let&#8217;s get the numbers of actual babies who were vaccinated shortly before a SIDS death&#8230;Please provide some real scientific data here.  That would be so very helpful in my continued effort at channeling my grief.</p>
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		<title>By: mike stanton</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17891</link>
		<dc:creator>mike stanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Mother seems consumed by grief and anger at the death of her daughter. Who can blame her? I have no idea how it feels to lose a child and all I can offer is my deepest sympathy.

I do not expect she is ready for any sort of rational discussion about vaccine safety right now. But it is a fact that Sudden Infant Death Syndrome has been declining throughout the period when the vaccine load has been increasing.

There is no evidence of a connection between vaccines and infant deaths. While I do not begrudge families financial compensation for their loss it is unfortunate that, because the vaccine court wil settle a claim if it thinks it is plausible, the burden of proof is so low that vaccines are being blamed when there is no data to support the claims. 

So vaccines are percieved to be dangerous. Vaccination rates fall. And before long children will start to die from vaccine preventable diseases. Who will compensate them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Mother seems consumed by grief and anger at the death of her daughter. Who can blame her? I have no idea how it feels to lose a child and all I can offer is my deepest sympathy.</p>
<p>I do not expect she is ready for any sort of rational discussion about vaccine safety right now. But it is a fact that Sudden Infant Death Syndrome has been declining throughout the period when the vaccine load has been increasing.</p>
<p>There is no evidence of a connection between vaccines and infant deaths. While I do not begrudge families financial compensation for their loss it is unfortunate that, because the vaccine court wil settle a claim if it thinks it is plausible, the burden of proof is so low that vaccines are being blamed when there is no data to support the claims. </p>
<p>So vaccines are percieved to be dangerous. Vaccination rates fall. And before long children will start to die from vaccine preventable diseases. Who will compensate them?</p>
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		<title>By: ANGRY MOTHER FROM NJ</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17890</link>
		<dc:creator>ANGRY MOTHER FROM NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understand that a diagnosis of SIDS was just not something we excepted.  The only way felt we could prove the vaccinations were the cause of our daughter's death was to file the claim and see how the government responded.   You can dissect everything I say here, but in the end, they chose to award us a settlement.   You can make statements all day long like "appears to have died from vaccines" or "payment does not necessarily mean causality" the last time I checked, our government wasn't just handing out money on a whim.  Instead of making the arguments that it's ok if some babies die from the vaccines why not argue for safer vaccines that insure NO baby will die from being vaccinated.  I'm not against vaccinating, I'm against ANY child dying from being vaccinated.  Aluminium and formaldeyhde in any capacity are unacceptable.  We are told we can't give our babies eggs, whole milk, certain meats, fruits and vegtables before they are 12 months old yet it's safe to inject  them with the garbage contained in the vaccines?  What about the babies who might be allergic to egg products but are still being forced to take a flu shot?  I CAN SEE BY THE INSENSITIVE NATURE OF THE COMMENTS POSTED HERE THAT NONE OF YOU AS EVER LOST A CHILD.  Sadly, I'm more in touch with the real world than any of you will ever be.  I'm starting to doubt that any of you even have children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understand that a diagnosis of SIDS was just not something we excepted.  The only way felt we could prove the vaccinations were the cause of our daughter&#8217;s death was to file the claim and see how the government responded.   You can dissect everything I say here, but in the end, they chose to award us a settlement.   You can make statements all day long like &#8220;appears to have died from vaccines&#8221; or &#8220;payment does not necessarily mean causality&#8221; the last time I checked, our government wasn&#8217;t just handing out money on a whim.  Instead of making the arguments that it&#8217;s ok if some babies die from the vaccines why not argue for safer vaccines that insure NO baby will die from being vaccinated.  I&#8217;m not against vaccinating, I&#8217;m against ANY child dying from being vaccinated.  Aluminium and formaldeyhde in any capacity are unacceptable.  We are told we can&#8217;t give our babies eggs, whole milk, certain meats, fruits and vegtables before they are 12 months old yet it&#8217;s safe to inject  them with the garbage contained in the vaccines?  What about the babies who might be allergic to egg products but are still being forced to take a flu shot?  I CAN SEE BY THE INSENSITIVE NATURE OF THE COMMENTS POSTED HERE THAT NONE OF YOU AS EVER LOST A CHILD.  Sadly, I&#8217;m more in touch with the real world than any of you will ever be.  I&#8217;m starting to doubt that any of you even have children.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17887</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The loss of one child is a tragic thing.  If people don't vaccinate their children, many, many, many more than one child will die, even unborn children will die, or be left severely disabled. There is no way we can make the world 100% safe all the time for everyone so that no child ever dies, though it would be wonderful if there was a way.  

We need to live in the real world, where we need to realize that germs don't care if they slaughter innocent children and where parents can't sue if a child dies of a case of wild measles, but fortunately they can sue if a child dies from a vaccine, or even appears to have died from a vaccine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The loss of one child is a tragic thing.  If people don&#8217;t vaccinate their children, many, many, many more than one child will die, even unborn children will die, or be left severely disabled. There is no way we can make the world 100% safe all the time for everyone so that no child ever dies, though it would be wonderful if there was a way.  </p>
<p>We need to live in the real world, where we need to realize that germs don&#8217;t care if they slaughter innocent children and where parents can&#8217;t sue if a child dies of a case of wild measles, but fortunately they can sue if a child dies from a vaccine, or even appears to have died from a vaccine.</p>
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		<title>By: isles</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17886</link>
		<dc:creator>isles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Mother, 

I think you misunderstand the purpose of the VICP.  It is to set a low bar for the payment of vaccine injury claims - in most cases, one does not have to prove causation in order to collect from the program.  Consequently, the fact that a payment was made does not necessarily mean there was causality.

I recommend you find a more constructive method of grieving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Mother, </p>
<p>I think you misunderstand the purpose of the VICP.  It is to set a low bar for the payment of vaccine injury claims - in most cases, one does not have to prove causation in order to collect from the program.  Consequently, the fact that a payment was made does not necessarily mean there was causality.</p>
<p>I recommend you find a more constructive method of grieving.</p>
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		<title>By: Do'C</title>
		<link>http://www.autismstreet.org/weblog/?p=190&cpage=1#comment-17883</link>
		<dc:creator>Do'C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
&lt;blockquote&gt;WOW, you are a bitter parent of a child with AUTISM as stated by your cruel comments with regards to my daughter’s death.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I'm not sure what you thought was cruel. I extend my sympathies for your loss regardless.



&lt;blockquote&gt;It is public information not by my doing, but, I have no regrets with regards to settling...&lt;/blockquote&gt;



And I don't think you should. That's what the VICP is in place for. Vaccines are not perfect, but they are better than the alternative numerous deaths and injury by endemic disease in the long term. I'm gald there is a system in place for parents in your situation that seeks to minimize the burden on both parties in such proceedings. That is not to suggest that the system is perfect (or "fair") either. Just my opinion.



&lt;blockquote&gt;...with a government that thinks it’s ok to inject babies with things like aluminum and formaldehyde.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Aluminum or formaldehyde being inherently evil? We could discuss the importance of adjuvants in effective vaccines or dose/effect relationsips, but I don't think you'd be interested. In your situation, and with your beliefs about circumstances, I might not either.



&lt;blockquote&gt;I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW HOW MY DAUGHTER DIED VOID OF HOW YOU MIGHT SEE IT.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Angry mother, your comments are welcome here, so far. If you are able to restrain yourself with regard to the use of ALLCAPS, it would be appreciated.



&lt;blockquote&gt;ACCORDING TO OUR GOVERNMENT, OUR BABIES ARE EXPENDABLE. &lt;/blockquote&gt;



I disagree. I can certainly understand the emotion behind this opinion, but I don't think the "government" communicates any support for such a statement.



&lt;blockquote&gt;BE GLAD YOUR DEALING WITH JUST AUTISM &#038; CALL IT A DAY.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Like everyone, I "deal" with all kinds of things, and my family is quite diverse. It's fairly presumptuous of you to assume that I have not dealt with similar loss, however, I choose not to discuss that here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>WOW, you are a bitter parent of a child with AUTISM as stated by your cruel comments with regards to my daughter’s death.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you thought was cruel. I extend my sympathies for your loss regardless.</p>
<blockquote><p>It is public information not by my doing, but, I have no regrets with regards to settling&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think you should. That&#8217;s what the VICP is in place for. Vaccines are not perfect, but they are better than the alternative numerous deaths and injury by endemic disease in the long term. I&#8217;m gald there is a system in place for parents in your situation that seeks to minimize the burden on both parties in such proceedings. That is not to suggest that the system is perfect (or &#8220;fair&#8221;) either. Just my opinion.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;with a government that thinks it’s ok to inject babies with things like aluminum and formaldehyde.</p></blockquote>
<p>Aluminum or formaldehyde being inherently evil? We could discuss the importance of adjuvants in effective vaccines or dose/effect relationsips, but I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d be interested. In your situation, and with your beliefs about circumstances, I might not either.</p>
<blockquote><p>I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW HOW MY DAUGHTER DIED VOID OF HOW YOU MIGHT SEE IT.</p></blockquote>
<p>Angry mother, your comments are welcome here, so far. If you are able to restrain yourself with regard to the use of ALLCAPS, it would be appreciated.</p>
<blockquote><p>ACCORDING TO OUR GOVERNMENT, OUR BABIES ARE EXPENDABLE. </p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree. I can certainly understand the emotion behind this opinion, but I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;government&#8221; communicates any support for such a statement.</p>
<blockquote><p>BE GLAD YOUR DEALING WITH JUST AUTISM &#038; CALL IT A DAY.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like everyone, I &#8220;deal&#8221; with all kinds of things, and my family is quite diverse. It&#8217;s fairly presumptuous of you to assume that I have not dealt with similar loss, however, I choose not to discuss that here.</p>
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